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What Does a Lack of Comments Really Mean?December 14, 2004

Last night, Chiaroscuro, Visual Field, ViSuaLLy MiNDeD, and I got together to discuss our mutual love of photography and our general sense that we really don't know what we're doing!

We looked at photographs, both our own and others, in print and online, and talked about what we liked and didn't like, hoping to learn from each other's reactions. When our own photographs would fail us, we talked about other photobloggers that we liked (I had my links page all revved up and ready to go). Overall, we generally agreed with each other's choices of favorite photoblogs, feeling like it was fairly easily to identify what we liked and disliked. The hard part was in figuring out how to reproduce that quality in our own photos.

(One burning question that we were left with is: Is C h r o m a s i a pronounced Chromazzzia, with the stress on "maz", or Chrome-Asia, like the continent?)

ChiaroscurotreesChiaroscuro then brought up an interesting issue - what to make of photos that don't receive any comments? Should we interpret lack of comments as a polite consensus that the photo wasn't any good? She drew our attention to this post (photo shown here), which didn't receive any comments. I claimed never to have seen this picture before in my life, but after looking at the text, I remembered that I had checked her photoblog that day and had read this post. Perhaps the same reason I didn't remember the picture was the same reason I hadn't commented on the picture? Was it just not striking enough? Especially when compared her other (amazing) photos? Visual Field suggested that maybe people didn't really know what to say in response to this photo - "nice trees"? But no one was willing to say that we didn't like the photo, because the truth was that we did like it. Someone suggested cropping the picture so that the water in the background was no longer or only barely showing. We tried it out and everyone reacted to the result - much better! It must have been that the background was distracting and we just didn't realize it at first!

But really, who knows if that's what viewers were thinking. Maybe the people who visited her site that day just didn't feel like saying anything that time. Maybe some of those same people stopped by my site and still had nothing to say (see examples of my own posts without commments here, here, here, and here) Or maybe they just hated those pictures! I really don't know.

However, my feeling (and I think every else's) is that we shouldn't read too much into a lack of comments, but at the same time, it must be true that the picture wasn't striking enough to motivate a viewer to say something about it. There may be some truth to the idea that if someone doesn't like the picture they might prefer just to say nothing at all. But just because no one said anything, I don't think we can assume the photo was generally disliked.


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I look at every one of those photoblogs on a daily basis. I blown away by each of your photos. You all have an amazing talent. The reason I don't comment most of the time is because I don't feel as though I have the knowledge, skill, or talent when it comes to photography to comment. That and sometimes it is hard to comment on photos. You would have eight million comments from me that say the same thing, "I love this photo!" "Oh, great photo!" "Wow."

Posted by: Fate's Fool at December 14, 2004 05:03 PM

 

After thinking about my own commenting habits, I've realised that there are several reasons why I don't comment:

1) Like we discussed, sometimes I like the photo, but it's hard to come up with anything interesting to say about it. I often have this problem with landscapes. I love good landscapes, and I appreciate the skill that goes into their making. But it's hard for me to comment even on the fantastic ones unless they have an unusual element, because I can't think of anything to say besides the usual stock phrases, like "So serene."

2) The photo is good, but there are more interesting photos right next to it on the blog. Sometimes photo A that is just kind-of interesting will get a comment from me because it's the best one posted recently on one blog. Whereas on another blog, I'll fail to comment on photo B that I actually like better, because there's an even more stunning photo C to comment on.

3) I don't like it and can't figure out how to suggest anything constructive.

Interpreting comments or lack thereof is so difficult. I've noticed that some people have put anonymous rating systems on their photoblogs. I might give this a try sometime in the future. Do you know anything about this?

Posted by: Chiaroscuro at December 14, 2004 05:05 PM

 

No, I don't know anything about rating systems. (Or rather, I don't know anything about installing them.)

But it sounds like a good way to get people to respond without requiring them to put their reactions into words, and constructive words at that.

Posted by: tamara at December 14, 2004 05:16 PM

 

One thing that I find useful regarding prompting people to comment is to ask them something specific, maybe about a technical aspect of the shot, or the colour, or the way you post-processed it ... anything that invites a more focussed response.

As for how you pronounce chromasia: do you know, I'm really not sure (it's a suffix that I've not heard pronounced - I'll have to look it up), but I suspect that both your alternatives may be wrong; i.e. it may well be pronounced as "crow-mace-ia" ;-)

Posted by: djn1 at December 14, 2004 05:22 PM

 

Well, it's like a blog post, isn't it? It might be an interesting enough post, but sometimes people just don't have anything really insightful to say (other than "Great photo!" And I think Fate's Fool is right--that would get old.) As it is, I'm still waiting to buy prints from you...

FYI--I was looking at some of your National Aquarium photos today. Those are really awesome. You should import them here.

Posted by: Dr. Doodle at December 14, 2004 10:46 PM

 

Almost without fail I post a photo for two of the weekly memes and I will look at every photo submitted to Thursday'sand about 1/2 of Friday's, I rarely leave a comment. Even for the ones that I internally verbalize a "Wow!"

It is not your's nor your photo's fault it is mine. It takes me a long time (relatively) to comment, I type with two fingers while looking at the keyboard. My thoughts come out all jumbled requiring lot of editing, my spelling is disasterous. A comment of more than one sentance is a big committment.

I use Pivot for my written blogs and it has something called karma built in that is rating system of sorts. I don't use it, but I bet there is a plugin for MT as well.

Posted by: Brian the Red at December 15, 2004 02:38 PM

 

Just discovered your photoblog and will be checking out the others in the next few days. Re commenting habits, sometimes I just don't have time to comment, I look, I sigh if I like it and I move on. Sometimes I will comment because something completely inspires me or moves me in an emotional way, tweaks a memory or just plain makes my face light up in smiles. I would never really suggest anything technical or so forth because 1) I don't feel that I have any technical know how or that I am an expert of any sort and 2) I view photography as art and I view art as subjective - what I like, someone else may not and vice versa.

See your conversation moved me to comment and your photos are very poetic from what I can see. I'll be back when I have more time and will check out your friends' as well : )

Posted by: daisies at December 15, 2004 06:28 PM

 

I think Dr. Doodle's exactly right when she suggests that a lack of comments on a photoblog is akin to lack of comments on a regular blog. Sometimes people just don't really have anything to say, other than "hey that was nice/interesting/whatever", but it doesn't mean that what you posted is uninteresting! Everyone here seems to be saying this, and it's certainly true of my own style of commenting on other people's sites. I guess we just have to accept that the whole world isn't out there, just waiting for a chance to comment on every single picture that we post!

Thanks everyone for all the comments on this post. I wasn't trying to goad you into commenting. Really, I wasn't! I just thought I'd share our own musings about the topic.

Posted by: tamara at December 16, 2004 01:09 AM

 

Personally I think one of the main reasons I don't post comments as much as I could boils down to simple intimidation. There are a ton of really great photographers out there. Seeing as I've only really started shooting regularly for about a year I find it tough to add anything constructive to an already great shot from someone with loads more experience than I. I'd rather go to my comments section and see a nice big rant on how to improve tweak or completely change the look of my photo than see the usual "Nice Shot," "Great Shot" comments that really do nothing but stroke my ego :P

If the above paragraph made no sense to you at all (it's late and I'm bound to make no sense,) Ya'll kick my ass and I'm scared to comment :D

Posted by: Chris L at December 16, 2004 02:45 AM

 

i'm glad i'm not the only one thinking like this, and that there are good explanations here for the same question floating on my mind re: my own photoblog and the comment it's getting.

i am also not a regular commenter, in fact i think i've commented less than five times on both chromasia and ddoi for the past 2 months. the reason for this i think is more of the intimidation issue too. i've only been shooting photos for 5 months, and i don't think i am in a position yet to critique someone else's work. that leaves me to just giving out praises, but the problem is i usually run out of words. english is not my native tounge, and constructing a long, non-boring, intelligent comment is a challenge so i usually end up not posting one even if i really wanted to give compliments.

i also see a lot of great photoblog sites that don't have a comment section, dailysnap.com is a good example. i guess this approach would effectively free us of the worry of why our posts are not getting comment, allowing us to concentrate on doing what we like most... capturing moments as they happen, and letting others view life as we see it.

Posted by: ren at December 16, 2004 04:58 PM

 

Thanks Ren for your thoughtful response to this post! I definitely have the same feeling about not feeling qualified to make negative comments about someone's pictures. Usually I only do so if it's someone I know or if they have specifically asked for it with regards to the particular photo. It's especially hard to bring myself to do it when I see a whole list of "oh I love it!" comments under the photo that I hadn't liked!

But I think comments are useful, and I'm trying my hardest to leave constructive comments on other people's sites. But to be honest, a lot of the time, I do leave "oh I love it!" comments, because often I do really love the photo and that's why I stopped to comment.

As for dailysnap.com, I notice every day that he doesn't have a comments section because I always love the photo and want to leave a comment! But I guess he'd probably be overwhelmed with the response. :)

Posted by: tamara at December 18, 2004 06:29 PM

 

I woudn't really worry all that much if a shot doesn't get any comments. I get between 400-600 visitors a day but rarely more that 2-3 comments. Why? The most likely reason is that I rarely have the time to engage my visitors in comment conversation which mean that people come to see but not to chit chat. Things are finally calming down around here which means more time for me to leave comments when I visit...participation beguets more participation in return.

Posted by: andre at December 19, 2004 04:20 PM

 

...and I forgot. Jessyel (the creator of DailySnap) turned off his comments after a few unfortunate entries brought in a flood of negativity. He reopened them briefly by a recent link on slashdot has made him a huge target for comment spam.

Posted by: andre at December 19, 2004 04:23 PM
 
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